You have the opportunity to add to the collective body of knowledge of medicine. Great post! It was wonderful to be a surgeon. But fellowships don't really care about how you do as a med student, only about how you do as a resident. I'm only starting my fellowship but I'll do mine for whatever its worth. How A Surgeon Balances Work & Life Dr. Buck explains how you can create what you want as far as a work life balance. Fellowships: There are a LOT of general surgery subspecialty fellowship options. What are you doing for your fellowship? Fruits and veggies are nutritional powerhouses, providing many essential vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants, which help ward off disease. I honestly don't agree with that assessment. General surgery is known for an intense residency: 30 hour calls and four days off in a month. I know that /u/Nysoz beat me to the punch, but I will try to add some thoughts and give a little bit of a different perspective as our experiences while similar have some differences. This was so awesome to read. More than 75% of Americans arent getting the recommended amounts of fruits and vegetables daily. After three days, he could no longer keep it up. As for the other fields, I don't regret it at all. I took PGY3s through some awesome cases including perfed ulcers, gallstone ileus, sigmoid volvulus - all with the attending hanging out and not scrubbing. When my patients lose limbs, it's to twinkies and Marlboros, not a drunk on the highway. One, my career as a surgeon is over for reasons of age. During my residency, I did two full years of research and obtained a masters degree. Chief Year also means running your service at all times - I was on home call for probably 300 nights out of the year (alternated weekends with another senior to get a weekend off, and if I was really tired or had to come in the night before I would have my PGY3 cover the home call that night). It has led to growing frustration, anger, and burnout. Toll free: 800-621-4111 (P) 312-202-5000 (F) 312-202-5001 (E) [email protected] I am trying to get a better sense of the lifestyle of urology vs. ENT vs. ortho DURING residency and afterwards. You run the service. What is your "bread and butter" surgery? Here you are the most complete physician I can think of. Read more … Our duty hours system tracked the number of call days and I did exactly 100 calls in one year. You do have to love surgery, but it is neither my first nor my only love in life. Abdomen and its contents 3. Patients aren't that sick in urology. Lets divide it into its parts and find out. Wide range of pathology. Acute Care Surgeon: This is basically non elective general surgery. You must have done pretty well on the steps right? It is also definitely the most academic, with a long history of surgical chairs being surgical oncologists/HPB surgeons. I have hobbies I enjoy outside of work. I had the chance to only do one year of research but it would have meant losing out on the opportunity for the masters degree among other things so I elected to do the full 2 years. A lot of burnout comes from a misalignment of expectation and reality. With that said, I'm glad I chose surgery and enjoy doing it. Trauma Despite the term "general", surgeons that practice general surge… Happy patients, less time spent on the floors. Trauma/Critical Care/Acute care surgery is a great specialty. A subforum for discussions related to training programs , applications, the interview and matching process for Surgery Patients see a lot of benefit from what you do. This is in some ways the most awesome year of residency - you get to do a ton of great cases but don't have the same level of responsibility as a chief resident. I love teaching and working with students and residents. Based on recent job postings on ZipRecruiter, the General Surgeon job market in both Chicago, IL and the surrounding area is very active. Learning how to not just operate but show someone else how to operate is a whole new learning curve (that I am still very much working on). Almost all of the programs are a match, but not all are done through the NRMP, and they are almost all on slightly different matching schedules. Heather Yeo is an academic surgeon who is publishing a lot of interesting stuff on this issue right now. By the time you finish training, everyone will be in group or hospital-based practices. Without the research I probably wouldn’t have even gotten an interview at the program I matched at so to some degree yes. Most programs are very high volume and graduates come out trained in endoscopic, laparoscopic, robotic, and open procedures. Don't know his long-term outcome, but it's safe to say he won't do that again anytime soon. The four blobs of silicone extracted from his urethra and bladder were in toto five inches in length. Would you pick surgery and your particular field again? CT Surgery: Cardiac and thoracic are actually very different. Taking the time off was basically a requirement at my program. I've dealt with death and debilitating injury more often than I'd like, and I'm a trainee still. Surgeons of Reddit: can you describe what your lifestyle is like out of residency? Upon arrival to the ED, he was still pretty high - he barked at staff and left AMA. Occasionally as a PGY8 I find myself wishing I had done a field where I'd be done and have been an attending for 5 years by now. Posted by. Running hundreds of traumas in the ED, taking patients to the OR for operative traumas (hopefully! I love the environment of academics and have a hard time imagining ever practicing outside of it. Close. But science shows that people who eat seven or more portions of fruits or vegetables have a 42% re… You are managing shock, placing central lines, a lines, participating in the complete care of the patient you stabilized in the OR. My general surgery program was done at a quaternary referral center with ~1000 beds and a Level 1 trauma center. Yes, and most academic programs require either part or all of each class to go to the lab. You can fix a lot of problems in clinic - BPH, incontinence, ED, etc can be treated with lifestyle modifications and medications. Go to a hospital without and ICU or with an open ICU (that way you only take care of your patients). Basically, I love surgery and hope to do it, but I'm trying to figure out if the residency lifestyle in all of the surgical specialties is so terrible … Wow! I'm at a medium sized community hospital and pretty much everything surgically related is outpatient. That means interrupted sleep, missed kids events, walking out on dinners, unable to schedule anything more than 30 minutes from the ER as often as every third or fourth night, not to mention no alcohol as often as every third or fourth day. Typical operative volume for intern year was ~100 cases - mostly melanoma/breast/hernias with the occasional lap chole and appy. When I was an M1 I thought about ortho but once I got more exposure to it I didn't really enjoy it as much. And lots. Think you can do a write up for MIS surgery? Want to know how to improve your health in the fastest, easiest way? Cardiac injury? Long story short, what would be your suggestion to get a better picture of surgery? In other words don’t lose the forest for the trees. Discuss surgery and surgical subspecialties. The downsides if you do a lot of trauma is that its a lot of non operative management and most jobs work you pretty hard. To be reading this, you either already are or are on the way to becoming a cardiothoracic surgeon. I trained at an academic/University general surgical residency program and am now in training at another heavily academic center as a fellow. If you manage to snag a truly pure elective practice with no general surgery call you may come close but that's about it. Not true for general surgery. My attempt at an inclusive list although I'm sure I will forget something:-Trauma/Acute Care-Endocrine-Breast-MIS-Surgical Oncology-HPB-Colorectal-Transplant-Cardiothoracic-Vascular-Pediatrics-Plastics. Thank you for this. Residency years:-Intern Year Traditionally was the year where you learned how to take care of patients. Everything leads up to this. It's very satisfying to fix a problem with your hands and see the patient recover as a direct result. Third year here and I actually scheduled my general surgery blocks as my very first rotations so that I could either rule in or rule out surgery. Let me add an answer that is relevant, I believe, but from a slightly different perspective. Change how you eat. Especially at a major academic center than mine. Simply to make you more competitive for X fellowship? However these days theres alot more hospital employed surgeons. Surgical critical care 2. If you go into private practice urology, you will be called in from home to place foley catheters at 2 AM. There are very few urological emergencies, so you can have a pretty good lifestyle as far as medicine goes. Lung laceration? The best part? Yes I'll admit theres 10 pairs of socks for every xbox but when that arrives, you are in for a fun night. This is a little off topic but how do you feel about using mesh slings to treat stress urinary incontinence? Every hospital has a little different interpretation of the job. Chief year is also what you make of it - I'd show up for some hernias or smaller cases because I knew the attending was cool and would just let me do the case with the junior. “General surgery residency training can be challenging at times but what makes it worthwhile, fun and memorable are the relationships you form with your colleagues during training years.” Do residents have time for a personal life? You can do small procedures in clinic (cystoscopy, vasectomy). How do you manage the burnout from dealing with what looks like a pretty stressful job? I pick the lifestyle of general surgery: operating, constantly improving my skills, and giving my patients the opportunity for a better life. None of them had a particular interest to me at the time nor do they now. What drew you to surgery and your specific area? May sound obvious again but if you’re the type of person who doesn’t deal well with bad complications or patient outcomes - don’t choose a field where those are part and parcel. Day in the Life of a Surgery Resident 4:30am: My alarm clock goes off. Just finished a GS residency and while the structure was slightly different I’d say this is a very fair assessment. The important concern going forward on your career pathway is the quality of your life, both in its professional and personal aspects. Background: I am a PGY-8, about to be PGY-9 (the flair only goes to 6 on this forum) surgery fellow. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. This goes for both practice and training. 238. Breast, skin, and soft tissue 4. You can have tough conversations with patients General surgeons are too often the bearer of bad news. If you dont like trauma, go to a non trauma center. But then i work my extra jobs because i'm bored, but that's a personal decision. ... the lifestyle of a surgeon is infamous and I have often heard it said that you should not pursue a career in surgery unless you absolutely cannot find anything else you might enjoy. This is the specialty that keeps the general surgeon true to his name. got to leave immediately after rounds). Thanks! Fellowship applications are also much more nebulous and secretive than med school or residency. That directness evolves in all of us over time in our training. You can say no/You can handle death The flip side of the above is that not every patient will be helped with an operation. General surgeons, ortho, and vascular guys work a lot on call. Surgeons of Reddit: Why is your surgical specialty or sub-specialty the best? American College of Surgeons 633 N Saint Clair Street Chicago, IL 60611-3295. This is the specialty that keeps the general surgeon true to his name. One of the most important part of your surgical training is learning when NOT to operate. Now, my second block of general surgery is ortho- which is sweet because thats one of the things I was considering, but my attending is nearing retirement, and he only does knees once a week. American College of Surgeons 633 N Saint Clair Street Chicago, IL 60611-3295. Other residencies are hard too. Benefits of this were that the night float person got the weekend off; downside was that as an intern you had to do on average 3-4 day/night switches per month. You have to be the one to stand your ground and tell a consulting team that no, you won't be operating on their patient even though everyone wants you to. The vast majority of acute care surgery is bowel obstructions, colitis (usually diverticulitis), gall bladder troubles, ventral hernias, and some kind of inflamed or perforated viscus. The well-being of our residents is a priority of the Ohio State Department of Surgery. 136. There's not really a lot of mystery to why it's competitive, and that's generally the biggest thing that scares people away from it. The Academic Hamster Wheel This is specific to academic surgery and subspecialty fellowship matching - but along with this long training came the process of having to go through another competitive application process and fellowship match. On our ICU month it meant closer to 30 - had to stay for formal ICU rounds and present all the new admits from that day.Night Float After 2011 my program introduced a semi night-float system. Surgeries range from the very short (urolifts, vasectomies, circs, etc) to medium length (kidney stones, TURPs, PVPs, prostheses) to long (nephrectomy, prostatectomy, cystectomy) to very long (a lot of reconstructive stuff, RPLNDs, etc). I'm definitely enjoying it, but going back to one of the misconceptions you mentioned "General Surgery is just choles and hernias." I think our ortho and plastics colleagues work just as hard as I do; they also take a lot of call and spend the night in the hospital a ton. You are the most efficient doc in the hospital, in house and ready to cut. Career choice is no longer an issue. Don't like ICU care? Most of us went into medicine in general because of a drive to help people. Surgical intensivist: Who wants to just be a dumb ole surgeon (well lots of people but thats besides the point). -spend more time with patients. I have some research ideas that I'm genuinely interested in. It may sound ridiculous but sometimes people go into this field without a love of operating. First things first, urologists are well-trained surgeons. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The field is small, so you get to know people. to enter a top academic fellowship? For me I have definitely gotten burnt out, I think pretty severely during my second year and to a lesser extent during the latter half of my chief year. This is a highly moderated subreddit. These are becoming increasingly rare - something like <10% of trauma activations went to the OR), rounding in the trauma ICU. Is it a basic, go-to treatment option or is it last resort? I am using the past tense for two reasons. When people come in with diverticulitis, appendicitis, cholecystitis, nec fasc, etc, you are there to get them in and out. And unlike medical intensivists, if the patient needs to go to the OR, thats you too! Great question and I don’t know that I have a perfect answer. Surg Onc is one of if not the most competitive fellowships for general surgery. This is likely because their responsibilities include covering many parts of the hospital, from the emergency department to the operating room. To be honest urologist are some of the best MDs out there in terms of what you guys do and handle. I can call these people any time any where for support. How did you manage to integrate loved ones into your residency training? The gruesome stuff) die than survive, or is it completely subjective? /r/medicine is a virtual lounge for physicians and other medical professionals from around the world to talk about the latest advances, controversies, ask questions of each other, have a laugh, or share a difficult moment. We have an annual inservice exam called the ABSITE but I got the impression (and was told) on the interview trail that no one cared about it as long as your scores weren't abysmal. If you like office/clinic and spending a lot of time talking to patients, it may not be for you as well. 1. I really think the entering generation of surgeons (myself and the residents junior to me) are very different than their forebears, and our field will continue to improve in the future. If you're reading this and you're a resident who wants to share your specialty experience, check out this post to see some requests, and then start your own "Why you should go into X" thread in the sub. The 5 least healthy were general surgeons, psychiatrists, ob/gyns, pediatricians, and critical care physicians. Welcome to /r/MedicalSchool: an international community for medical students. A General Surgeon in your area makes on average $323,228 per year, or $7,478 (2%) more than the national average annual salary of $315,750. It's a well reimbursed specialty as well. The process of applying for fellowships sucks. Call:Call: I did my intern year in a very traditional program taking Q3-Q4 call. According to the American Board of Surgery,2 general surgeons are trained to operate on the: 1. The pain was so bad day and night that I’d hoped it did not have to come to them amputating my feet eventually. - Thats honestly all I saw on my first block. You can pick what you want to do as a surgeon or you can do everything and have a wide variety. Its you buddy. It takes a lot of very unglamorous training to become a plastic surgeon. NO, the field is not "dying", please stop asking. Question for you. It is a fellowship out of general surgery and its basically general surgery on steroids with more variety. How were you academically as a medical student. Or you could be an acute care surgeon with fixed hours. You don't have to worry about the job market because only 250 people join the fold each year. ... Lots of cancer (testicular, bladder, renal, prostate), lots of lifestyle improvement (stones, incontinence, ED), lots of life-changing stuff (infertility comes to mind). "Don't do surgery unless you can't see yourself doing anything else"I hear this comment a lot or some variant upon it. I am a retired Plastic and Reconstructive surgeon in Santa Ana. Great write-up, and I definitely agree with the idea that you can't go into surgery unless you don't see yourself doing anything else in the world. Lots and lots. But surgery forces you to be the voice in the room clearly directing a trauma. I'm currently on my elective urology rotation and I'm really enjoying it! See the Grueling Life of an American Surgeon ... Gardi was up at 3:00 a.m. to meet with the chief surgical resident in General Surgery and Trauma as … But I don't kid myself - I'm not going to be the person with 3 RO1 grants and 200 publications. General surgery used to be the most sought after branch because it provided ample scope to practice a wide range of surgeries and give the practitioner a lot of satisfaction of surgical practice. Read patient ratings of William Foley, practicing General Surgery doctor in Fullerton, CA The only true downsides are the competitiveness of the field, the length of training (5-6 years for residency, an extra 1-2 for fellowship), the early hours, and the huge amount of work you will put in during residency. I'm a PGY8 and I still take in house call now. Someone suggested silicone caulk as a substitute for natural reaction. Lets divide it into its parts and find out. They still took call (or did night float). We'll save it in our wiki for future reference! As a surgicalist, i work seven 24 hour shifts a month and get 23 days off, so my lifestyle i would argue is better than most. Surgery continues to evolve. When its non operative, its still mentally challenging to prioritize injuries and get the patient to the specialist they need and most of the time you are the coordinating care and ICU doc, which leads me to the next component. I have had urological problems my whole life and my urologist has made my way of life bearable again. I work hard, but I do the things I like to do. Hehe. >250 Step 1/2, good grades, good school, etc. The acute care surgeons I've worked with are definitely doing nothing more complex than a general surgeon in a decent-sized community hospital, and I would say they have less variety but higher acuity. It's so foreign from my personal experience that it's really hard for me to believe it at times (but I do). We have a true chief-run general surgery service that we all rotate on for 2 months - you have a PGY3 on service with you and the two of you do cases together with an attending present for supervision/backup. You also run the show at the VA for two months. Is it risky? If you don't like adrenaline inducing cases and operative challenges then you may not like this specialty. Dismissing some misconceptions:The Asshole Trope I am often mystified when I read the comments on reddit from med students about the way their surgery attendings/residents behave. I picked surgery because it was my favorite, but I could see myself doing other specialties and having a reasonably good time of it. In the last 5 years, I have developed neuropathy and fortunately I am not a diabetic so I’m glad it’s idiopathic. You are working in cooperation with other physicians and other surgeons to get the patient the most complete care possible. You may have to do a lung resection. It's crucial that surgeons be able to connect with patients quickly and it is painful to watch a surgeon that can't do this well. For fellowships my experience was that academic pedigree and "who you know" mattered far more than anything else. I won't be the last person from my med school class in training but I will be damn close. Thanks for the great write-up! When I was training to be a plastic surgeon, everyone thought it was glamorous. If you're serious about surg onc you should do 2 years. It’s exhausting, to say the least. Also I just checked your daily schedule. Do you regret not going into a surgical subspecialty with a better lifestyle/pay? -make friends with your co residents. Typical day: I posted a sample schedule from my chief year once before on this site:Typical Day. A patient engaged in a meth orgy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The oncologist tells the patient lets try one more round of chemo or that new trial; the general surgeon is the one who has to tell them they've now perforated/obstructed/etc. I think that the stress/burnout factor is significantly tied into why General Surgery has such a high attrition rate. Our program is one of a relative few that went back to traditional Q4 call (though our program has also expanded over time so it is more like Q5 call now). Lots and lots and lots of penises and prostates. When you’ve taken care of these patients together, saved lives and lost them together, there is a special bond that forms. The expectations for operative volume and case complexity go way up. This post will be cataloged on the wiki for posterity. I snooze once, then I get up to start my day. Sometimes it makes me want to just go do hernias for a living and avoid it all. Most do not provide a category specifically for bariatric surgery, since it's performed by many non-specialized surgeons. I knew that lifestyle was an important issue with general surgery, as general surgeons are known to be among the hardest-working physicians. It pays well. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the medicalschool community. Fertility-trained fellows will be good microsurgeons. Lots of cancer (testicular, bladder, renal, prostate), lots of lifestyle improvement (stones, incontinence, ED), lots of life-changing stuff (infertility comes to mind). I did well as a medical student yes. My med school classmates are mostly comfortably into their attending lives by now. You may have to do a distal panc/spleen. After residency (when you're called in at 2 AM to place foleys), your schedule is a lot less variable. Surgical oncology3 3. My schedule has been 65-85 hours a week depending on if I have call, but it seems like the residents are always there later than us. You might have to repair an iliac artery. I also just signed up for 2 more years... What is the reasoning behind taking two research years? My father was a surgeon, practicing thoracic/abdominal surgery in New England. Most of my friends that did well on Step 1 are the type that love surgery and are going into the surgical specialties because better pay/lifestyle (uro, ENT, ortho). 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